Hamburg / Germany

It's March 26, we are somewhere in the Corona pandemic. How do you experience the situation at the moment?

That's really a question I can only answer for this very moment because it changes from moment to moment. And that's maybe already one of the major experiences that I have the feeling to live very much in the moment. So I do not exactly know what the next day brings. And what in the afternoon happens and so on. 

Yeah, it's really more about what is in the moment and in this very moment now at 9 am. I noticed that already that it does not really matter so much which day of the week is. It's a bright, sunny spring day.

I went running. I did a headstand on the terrace. I did some inner work because I felt some disturbances in me. And then I started to talk with you. So if I can just be with what is it is actually a very nice day. And then, of course, outside of this capsule, seems to be a weird state of being right now. Sometimes I feel it – like last night, in the middle of the night, I had a moment I noticed a kind of flurry – I don't know the English word. It was very like a trembling energy, like being very nervous.

And I was like, oh, wow, what is this? And I think that this quite describes a little bit the atmosphere I feel around. And sometimes I got caught by it and then I need to find out what it also means for me, because a part of me, of course, is also in this state. And then I can again protect myself better and get more balanced and and feel well, actually.

Thank you. Is there anything that you would say that you learn about yourself at the moment in this situation or about your society or the city you're living in?

There is a lot. The first thing about myself is that I think I'm in a way very much used to get through crisis. I connect also to something very strong in myself. I also noticed that I have something... This is the strength is something I can also share with other people or can be of service to our society or of other people as well.

And then about the surrounding, I'm very much enjoying what it makes with the neighborhood. I opened a neighborhood bonfire and people started to offer special sauces, where to get a good coffee produced in the area. Other ones we had to get to meat from a farm close to Hamburg. And and and it's like a market place. And I enjoyed that, because normally people do not interact and communicate in this way and not share what they have to offer or so on. So I love to see this kind of solidarity. We are sharing. And that money is losing significance. But let's say I mean, I'm, of course, an existential crisis working on my own as a freelancer. There is no income in a way. Really reduced income and I have to find ways to get through this time.

But in a way, I have the feeling that, putting this aside, money is losing importance. I don't know. It's rather where to get goods, or about relationships, or about infrastructure and care. That's also something I enjoy quite a lot.

Another thing I find really interesting is that I offered an afternoon with free coaching sessions in the neighborhood yesterday. On working on resilience and going well through the crisis. And when I offered it in the bonfire, everybody was like, oh, cool, something like that. But it was a little bit like you told it in your neighborhood. Nobody contacted me. And it doesn't matter. I think.

It's just noticing, but it's not that I'm hurt in my ego or something like that. I think it's good to make this offer and to know if someone is in trouble, maybe they  think about it and they can contact me or something like that. So in a way I have made my competence or my contribution transparent. But people not used to take this in a way. I think that's something I. also notice. This asking for help or taking help is something we – I would include myself – are not so used to do in a way.

Thank you. Wow. Very rich. I would invite you to make a little shift from how you experience the situation today to looking ahead to a time where we learned to live well with the crisis or this virus by containing it or whatever. What do you want more of or less of of this time and or in this time in the future?

I would like to have more of this solidarity in neighborhood aspect. I really like it. Also this being here in my office space. Which is connected also to the neighborhood, somehow. Inviting neighborhoods with their topics and working on their story.So being part of it, it's something new for me in a way and I would like to have more of it.

And right now, I'm quite good at doing yoga and contemplating. I really give space to it because I'm aware that I needed to go well through the time. And I would like to keep that as a strong priority. Because I think it's so good to nourish yourself well and then it's out of this state to share or to contribute. And also my boys, actually, they're doing quite some work at home. That is much more normal now in this situation that they take part in the house and homecare. This could stay a little bit longer!

Is there anything you want to have less of?

Compared to this current situation?

Or the time before the current situation.

I'm really wondering what it makes with my working content. I think the work before was much more efficiency driven. And it's not that I would cancel completely efficiency out of my life, but more balanced with the free, creative space. Of course less worries in the sense of existence and health.

 All right, so maybe this is a good moment for the last question. So when you think of the future, your society or your yourself, your life, your neighborhood, what is your wildest dream? What would be a dream that you might even not allow yourself to dream yet? How does life look like?

Maybe I'm inviting people in more into retreat situations. I just noticed that I like that and I'm very used to this introspection part and that's also something I enjoy about the situation. I do not suffer in isolation so much. My hermit part, I am quite good with it.

And there is a sentence coming in my mind: First listen and then act. And I  think this to act out of the introspection or as we say process work to connect to the Dreaming Level and to act out of this dreaming level – that's something I want to continuously do. I would like to spread and I would like that the whole world would do it, because I think then it would be more abundant.

Thank you very much.